Episode 192: The Importance of Celebrating Small Wins: Mandy’s IVF Journey
Today’s guest discusses her unexpected struggles with infertility. After a year of trying to conceive, Mandy Menaker trusted her instincts and decided to seek advice from others. She turned to Julie Campbell, at Progyny, who helped guide her on how to find the right fertility clinic, navigate insurance, and understand the ins and outs when it comes to fertility treatment.
After the rollercoaster of emotions and multiple rounds of fertility treatment, Mandy and her husband Eric finally achieved their dream of becoming parents. But the journey didn’t stop there, Mandy later conceived her second child naturally, a surprise that reaffirmed the unpredictable nature of fertility.
Along the way, Mandy learned how to advocate for herself and celebrate small wins to help cope with the ups and downs of IVF. Inspired to help others facing similar challenges, Mandy wrote an article for PR Daily, offering practical tips and emotional support to those navigating a family building journey.
You can read her article here: What a difficult fertility journey taught me about being a better communicator
Guest: Mandy Menaker, Fertility Advocate
Host: Julie Campbell, Progyny
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Advocate for Yourself
02:09 – 09:38
Mandy Menaker: We thought it would be pretty easy to conceive. We didn’t expect any challenges on the way. And then, lo and behold, around a year later, we said, okay, maybe there’s something that we need to take a look at. I trusted my gut and said I’m not going to keep trying. I’m not going to waste another six months feeling disappointed every month. So, I reached out to my friend Julie. She works at Progyny. And she was really helpful pointing me towards some different clinics that would take our insurance in New Jersey.
Julie Campbell: Mandy didn’t know if she was even allowed to see a fertility specialist. Ever since the inception of IVF in the late 1970s, infertility, is defined as the inability of opposite sex partners to achieve conception after at least one year of unprotected intercourse and or the inability of opposite sex partners to achieve conception after six months of unprotected intercourse when the female partner trying to conceive is age 35 or older. So, whether it’s intentional or unintentional, this definition can be found in a lot of medical healthcare insurance policies, and it serves as a barrier to accessing care. To put it simply, if you don’t meet this narrow, outdated definition of infertility, you can’t access infertility treatment coverage that may be available to you. They’ve updated the definition of infertility to be inclusive of everyone. So, if you feel like seeing a fertility doctor might help in any way, you’re probably right. Leading up to IVF, Mandy and Eric were hopeful and even a little bit excited, but when it came time for treatment to start, Mandy did experience some hurdles.
Trusting the Process
16:41 – 21:57
Mandy Menaker: Nurses always say, once you’ve done the transfer, not to take an at home pregnancy test. My nurse confirmed that about 99% of people do not listen to that advice, because you’re very excited. So, the first time that it came back positive, I broke down crying and I showed my husband, but it almost didn’t feel real, because at this point, it had been about two years of trying. Going into that pregnancy, I think we were a lot more confident in knowing that we had put in a healthy embryo than we would have been, had we only conceived naturally. And so, I think that is one of the amazing benefits of IVF, the fact that even though it’s a lot of work to get there, that you can pretest an embryo.
Julie Campbell: Finally, after three IVF retrieval cycles and one embryo transfer. Mandy was pregnant. Mandy and Eric went through a lot, but at the end of the day, they reached their goal, and about eight months later, Mandy decided that she wanted to share some of what she learned from this experience, so she wrote an article titled, What a “Difficult Fertility Journey Taught me About Being a Better Communicator” for the website, PR Daily.
Paying it Forward
21:57 – 24:37
Mandy Menaker: I decided to write an article detailing my experience and some of the lessons that I learned on the way. A huge part of writing that article was just wanting to get in front of more people that might not know that others are going through this. And in that article, I included some of the different tips and some of the things that I had learned along the way. So, I actually think the thing that was the most meaningful and the most fun was celebrating milestones on the way to your end goal. And this was actually a tip I had originally gotten from Julie at Progyny. So maybe on night five, I would order delivery food from my favorite restaurant, and on night ten, I would plan to meet a friend out for dinner. And then after the retrieval, I would plan one big gift for myself.
Julie Campbell: Yes, that is actually a go-to piece of advice that I always give people all of the time when they come to me for help. IVF is a long road, and as someone who has undergone two egg retrievals and is currently in the process of creating embryos, I can tell you firsthand that there are some major ups and there are some major downs we can’t control exactly what’s going to happen in the end, and that’s a struggle, the loss of control. So go ahead, when something good happens in your cycle, regardless how minor, like having the courage to inject yourself for the first time, a good evaluation or an encouraging sonogram, at a monitoring appointment – allow yourself to celebrate even just a little. Take joy where you can find it on the journey.
Host
With over a decade of experience in the fertility sector, Julie started her career as a Progyny Patient Care Advocate (PCA). Her role as a PCA, dedicated to guiding patients through their fertility journeys, laid the foundation for her profound understanding of the intricacies of fertility care. Transitioning into Business Development, Julie now harnesses this extensive knowledge and her deep-rooted passion for family building and reproductive wellness, assisting employers in navigating the fertility landscape. Her expertise is instrumental in developing comprehensive fertility and family building coverage within healthcare benefits packages.
Julie is a fertility patient herself. She was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) in 2018, she brings empathy and authenticity to her advocacy for fertility solutions. Additionally, as a proud sister of a gay brother, she is a fervent champion for the LGBTQIA+ community, staunchly promoting inclusivity and equality in all facets of her work and beyond.
Julie’s unique blend of professional acumen and personal experience positions her as a leading authority in creating fertility and reproductive wellness solutions that are as diverse and inclusive as the families they help create and support.
Guest
Mandy Menaker shares her home with her husband, Eric, their fluffy dog Nala, and their daughter Zoe, who was conceived through IVF. Mandy’s family building journey inspired her to become a compassionate advocate for others facing similar struggles. Her commitment to supporting others is evident in her writing, including a heartfelt account of her IVF journey featured in PR Daily. She believes in using her voice to uplift and remind people that behind every pregnancy announcement, there may be a profound journey of perseverance.
Beyond guiding individuals on their fertility paths, Mandy is the founder of Mandy Menaker Communications. She specializes in media relations, content creation, and storytelling for brands, using her expertise to help them connect with their audience and share their unique narratives.